The hosts read and discuss Qwen's announcement of forthcoming open weights for Qwen 3.8 Max and a smaller 27B model. They describe reported model size, multimodal capability and token pricing, comparing those claims with other frontier models rather than presenting an independent evaluation.
A long-running autonomous coding demonstration prompts discussion of how much coding agents have improved. The hosts also examine reported benchmark scores and compare the model with Kimi K3, while acknowledging uncertainty about what some tests measure and the significance of overlapping score ranges.
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